07-01-2011, 08:03 PM #1
how to grow autoflowering plants and super autos
i think the time comes to start this new thread about how to grow in the right way for autos and super autos, because about what i saw so many times there are so many wrong ideas turning arround in several forums and places that can't be...
Most of the time and till the beginig of the autoflowering process that was started by joint doctor, many people as the wrong concept that autos must be small and should stay small, and coz of this they has to be grown in small containers and sometimes in small mac donalds paper glass...
well i personaly think that now the time comes to answer here to many questions that people, growers have about the grow of diferents kinds of autos, because the biggest miss in this history is that all seeds company totaly forgot to explain it to u guys.
Most now that many of the seeds bank are just buying there auto seeds to wholesalers in spain which never breed any autos in there lives and just reproduce them to make money. The most important i think is to listen to real breeders like there are a lot in the forum and to auto lovers that grow autos since many years now and which ones have a very big experience. If we do all mix our experiences, we can built here a very good base for auto novices for grow expreiences which one will and can be a perfect base for work with autos and super autos.
I personaly also think that as creator of super autos, seeds bank owner and breeder i have the responsability to explain to people how to grow autos and super autos the best way.
Now also with the introduction of the new joint doctor strain in Flash seeds in few time, Flash will have inside the team the complete auto creators and this mean that we will provide to people and the world the best seeds , strains and informations available to growers.
Ok autos were maid to be easily hidden, easy to put even into pc towers ok...but this is not the only reason about those plant the other reason is also to get quick finishing plants that produce well and good quality...
here i post a message that dwolf420 sent nme today and I also post here the answer i sent him:
3 plants 1 container
I was thinking about getting 2, 25-30 liter pots to put 3 Mi5 in. I was just reading about what you had said in the "Chazedayz" Thread and wanted to know your thoughts on this? I just harvested 5 mi5 this week. Each in 11 liter pots. I noticed they had not come close to filling up the 11 liter containers. This is what got me thinking about 3 plants in a 25 or 30 liter container. Thanks in advance, and keep up the good work :D
hello dwolf 420
well in fact it is not a problem if the plant doesn't file the all container, what is really important is that the plant and there roots have enough space to develop and never have troubles with feeding etc...
the fact is that for autos the containers must be outdoor at least 7 liters an i hih¡gly recomand 10liters cause this way ur plant will have no carancies and even if u forget to water her you'll have less troubles than in small containers...also u'll have this way almost no nutrients to give her which provide u a safe plant to smoke more bio.
to put 3 plants feminized in a 25 liters containers will maybe give u more chance to develope in one of her an hermies issue... why? because plants are like this, it is a natural thing that is in the plant that when they are in contact of each others the roots seemse to produce a kind of essence that induce a plant to turn male. so my personal advise is to tell u thatit is not recomamnded to do this. even the fact will be tahtin 25 liter containers the plants will have the same troubles about feeding miss, so u'll have to give them also nutrientes and sometimes one plant can recieved less nutrients than another and this way u'll have less production than if each plants are in there own 10 liters containers.
think about it bro
i'll open a special thrad on how grow the best way autos and super autos, thank to ur question.
In fact guys the most important details in growing good cannabis plants is to get very close to mother nature...
in nature plants does never have root space limited and in nature i've seen in eastern european countries free hemp growing rudiralis type over than 5 meters tall... this is obvious.
this is all for today coz i'm a bit in hurry, but i'll return later to file this thread which is very important and i want to dedicate a lot of time and energy in.
please guys if u have any suggestions, just had good informations if u have with any pictures too and ask me here what ever u need to know about super autos grow.
thank u for ur time
07-01-2011, 08:18 PM #2
What a great thread this is gonna be stitch, good on ya mate :-) I'm subscribed man and looking forward to learning,ATTENTION! Class in progress :-)I recently quit my job at the helium factory,I refuse to be spoken to in that tone
07-01-2011, 09:44 PM #3
here we go again,.....after a good diner and a nice ice cream :p
this thread is part of the project that ia had form the beginning of Flash seeds, I mean to get with this new company an international AA class advertizing and info source for all of the people that want to grow good autos and are totaly forgoten from the big seeds banks.
Even if now big seeds banks are selling auto seeds, they totaly forgot the main procvess of taking care about the customers, which is information, this is not only about haveing nice pics ( sometimes fake ones) with some kind o¡f descriptions that will help growers to get the top max results of the plants.
Flash seeds will solved this problem and this mistake giv¡ing very soon a full aplication method to grow autos and super autos, not only for Flash seeds strains, but for all auto stains available, because even if some are sold from others seeds banks, the base are all come and will all come from the same roots which are:
1: Joint doctor lowryder #1 and #2.
2: stitch super autos with Stitch 0.1 base.
than if we see those two points, the fact are that people copied or used JD lowryders and people will also copy or use Stitch 0.1...that mean that we are abble both of us to explain to people how to grow them the most properly we think it is...and give the best infos.
But i repeat ones again, we are not the definitives, we are not the only ones to get the best infos, but the bases and the roots for those.
I personaly work with autos since more than ten years now with my super autos that i started to cross with some seeds of eastern rudiralis that i get from a travel that ia made in Hiungary in 1998, I used to get there to work as DJ in a big discotek in Debrecen a quite big city next to the roumanian border. In this plqace it was very commun to find some cannabis plants everywhere in the country side and evenin the city streets... I was very happy to get in this place cause as u can imagine, this was a kind of paradise for me smoker to see so many cannabis plants everywhere.
I strated to get in several places over the country and started to collect some plants and seeds to see if there was any of those more potent but with no many success, but what i saw and atract my atention is that as the sensi seeds bank said many times in some catalogs in that time and the few books available at that time, that the eastern cannabis was rudiralis kind in the majority and as the capacity to autoflower at anytime due to a kind of natural aclimatation. I still don't know if this is the truth, but this was very interesting for me because i could see so many enormous cannabis plants over than 4 meters highfully budding in mid july and this was a very interesting data.
I forgot to say that I started to smoke and grow marijuana in Mexico in 1991 and at this time only pure sativa ¡was available and i felt in love with this positive kick has energy of sativa MOTTA.
But for me than it was imposible for me to grow those plants and seeds in europ, so my vision was clear...mix some mexican sativas with those rudiralis top get early sativas abbla to flower quickly.
So i started than in 1999/2000 to cross some rudiralis to get a base to work with this took me till 2001 or so, than started to cross the base rudiralis one with some sativas that i had at the time from mexico to induce some potency in it... the process was on the rails, the product was enough potent for me, this was pleasant, but i need then more potency and taste and this was a first stage that gived me Stitch 0.1.
My name Stitch is coming from a mexicain friend of mine that coulkdn't named me well with my real name, so one day He started to call me STITCH and this stayed.
Slowly then years after years i improved the strains crossing it with several strains to give me more choises of smoke and u start now to get them available.
this was the small historical data that i wanted to giive you here guys to understand were super autos are coming from.
For Super autos grow u have to keep in mind whatr was the base of the work, my inicial idea of it....which is growing sativas outdoor that become huge, enormous with big yield and in short time, but plants that have to get huge or even bigger than non auto plants.
Super autos of my genetics...need big containers, the best quality soil and a lot of sun, they can also perfectly work indoor, but due to the big size, they are doing best outdoor.
Start ur seeds germination putting your seeds into a kitchen papers, wet not too much, and then place the papers into an ermetical box or a plastic bag to keep the wetness, place this into a worm place over 18 degres celsus and forget them for 4 days or so, then come back and normaly all the seeds are germinated.( don't forget that sometimes if u come and check them every 6 houurs v¡because ur anxious, u may had some troubles by ur own to the seeds germination process, because u are nervious to see them germinating, and this way u are stressing them too!
don't forget that in nature, seeds have nobody coming to look at then and touch them every 6 hours or everydays and they are germinating pretty good. So do the same brothers.
If some seeds doesn't germinated, i will tell u to get the in mind that u can help them to germinate, coz sometimes seeds have troubles to open or crack there shell, sometimes rudiralis shell are stronger and bigger than normal cannabis indica or sativa. So carefully help the shell to broke very carefully helping u with ur teeth and this way back the seeds innto the paper for two days more and u'll have the seeds open and germinated.
Than place the seeds into the soil, start the seeds into the definitive cointainer that u wich to grow ur plant, please use for Super autos containers over than 25 liters outdoor and not less than 10 liters indoor, if u can't get enough space for a 10 liter container indoor, just forget grow a Super auto indoor and do best grow normal autos.
Super autos are very easy to grow, they don't need any feeding program in fact if the soil is good and in big containers till you reach week 4 or so and just start some nutrients program till this time. U can easily start to give some grow nutrients at week 4 till week 7 or 8 max, than strat flowering program at week 6 /7 just mix both nutrients program for one week or two and stop flowering program at week 11 for Number One and Chaze and at week 12 for Annapurna and Nirvana sky...
indoor feed your plants with a water with ph regulated... outdoor just forget about it, this is just ridiculous to regulate ph, this is not necesary at all, coz in fact the plants just hacev serious ph troubles when indoor due to the lamps and electric lights, nothing else.
When u stopped all the feeding just clean your plants starting by cleaning the soil with pure fresh water during at least 10 days before harvest, this way ur plants will have time to eliminate all the nutrients in the organism, and this will induce a better natural taste and effect without any toxic residue of nutrients.
Cut ur plants remove all the big leafs, keep just the plants stored in a dark dry place with some fresh air going through, and wait till ur buds are totaly drieds, than store the bud into a glass jare or a plastic box like tupperware. Wait till more that one month normaly ( I knozw this is hard and long...hehehe) and open the box or jar every days for 10 minutes, before starting to smoke and than to really apreciate the taste and potency of the strain.
Thank u guys for ur time and i'll follow the story a bit later.
07-01-2011, 10:20 PM #4
This thread needs a sticky,it's an excellent read and everyone can learn something here,nice one stitch :-)I recently quit my job at the helium factory,I refuse to be spoken to in that tone
07-01-2011, 10:35 PM #5blewjobGuest
07-01-2011, 11:07 PM #6boomer petwayGuest
thanks stitch. you're giving us gold here
07-02-2011, 05:16 PM #7
just got here yesterday this is my first thread i subbed to. just want to thank stitch for the great thread, now maybe i'll learn something about autos. i havent done a intro yet but from what i see this site kickass. +REPS FOR STITCH
TOKE OUT :toke:
07-03-2011, 04:47 AM #8SmashedbyHashishGuest
This is a good thread my man, people often confuse growing auto's to photo's. Few seed banks explain what autos are much less how to grow them. I've seen that Jim from dopeseed has info up for autos, but nothing like your layin down here Stitch. I will be following this thread, hangin on every word.
07-20-2011, 07:03 PM #9
very interesting mate I love the look of the plant, she's really look sativa for sure.
If u need more advices for crosses i'll be glad to help u but out of this thread coz this one will be for auto grow teaching only. ;)
07-21-2011, 01:00 AM #10
i'm subcribed for sure!i've grown quite a few autos from alot of different breeders.let me say that out of all you do the work on the autos.there are some other good ones but your mi5 and onyx are 2 of the best autos i've grown.you get great yields if you do a little training.and the taste and the high off these 2 strain are spot on.
is ther any other strain of your work that you would suggest?please let me know.i'm sure i'll have some question soon so have help from the straight breeder is amazing.you are one stand up guy sticht!thanks for being one of the few that acturally care about your customers and all growers in general.