03-22-2012, 04:24 PM #191surffreak23Guest
I don't think those are a P. Somniferum, the leaf profile doesn't fit and they look like they have quite a bit of hairs on them.... Also the color isn't right, the leaves should look very similar to dandelions or lettuce (not the fern looking leavces you have shown) Also if opium poppies, they will be almost perfectly smooth and there will be a greyish blue powder that rubs off when touching the plant. When it come down to it when the bloom you can tell much easier what exactly they are. Most likely you have the standard red poppies that most people have as ornamental flowers.
For some reason I can't find the pics of my poppies when they were just leaves, when I find them I'll post the for you to compare with...
Forgot to mention that poppies don't transplant well because their roots are so delicate and shallow.....
03-22-2012, 04:36 PM #192
Thanks a lot surffreak. Bummer. I forgot to mention that they are red blossoms. The leaves are definitely not smooth. They are completely full of hairs. If they were pot plants and they were trichomes I'd be all psyched expecting a wonder-strain!
Oh well, I guess I'll just allow them to continue being ornamental and sexy. I'll post some more pics and ask again when they bloom, as you mentioned that it's easier to tell then
Thanks a lot for the help! :smokebuds:Question Authority
03-22-2012, 04:57 PM #193surffreak23Guest
No problem, what's weird is the red poppies like that are what they make all the synthetic opiates out of, but the chemical needs so much reaction and breakdown, you'd have to be a great chemist to make ocycodone from the red poppies....
A good rule of thumb with poppies is if it's hairy there's no psychoactive properties... (there are very few exceptions to this rule)
03-22-2012, 05:07 PM #194surffreak23Guest
03-22-2012, 05:11 PM #195
Thanks surffreak! I appreciate your help. Keep it Green!Question Authority
03-25-2012, 05:12 PM #196urbGuest
I believe the term for hairless is glabrous. Sorry noods , those are most definitly not Somniferums. The seeds are easily obtained at any supermarket. The company Tasmanian Alkaloids sells their seeds for culinary purposes. I can't say which companies they sell to , but if one were to buy several different brands I'm sure you'd get something worthwhile. Here's a few pics. They are a few weeks old , but I'll update.
03-25-2012, 05:30 PM #197
Thanks urb! Hey, this sure is pretty!
03-25-2012, 05:41 PM #198surffreak23Guest
Thanks for the term correction! + REP
Yeah, that sounds right, I just try to explain things simply when it comes to poppies because there are soo many confusing weird things about them already, especially if you attempt to breed anything at all... The chromosome swapping is still misunderstood apparently (I put a large breeding section in this thread a while back, if you read the whole thread you're bound to learn something...); no one has been able to breed for potency by crossing a large pod variety with a potent one, and get any stable, reproducible results...
I can't wait to see everyone's flowers this year, as I'm not doing my own this season....
Been posted before but it'sjust so pretty; the only (P. Setigerum, this is what normally is obtained in the US through the grocery stores) red poppy that showed last year... the rest were hens and chicks, pepperbox and gigantheum. Caught it in some nice light!
04-09-2012, 12:39 AM #199
04-09-2012, 11:05 AM #200BigBuddhaGuest
So, very basically (of course, observing ALL safety factors at all times).. you grow them.. dry the pods and stalks.. process into a powder.. make into a tea and drink it VERY carefully until you know its potency?
And that's it? Home-made opiates?
Far.. F'ing out!!