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Congrats on starting your first grow! It's always exciting, whether it's plant #1 or 1000. The plants look fine for their age. The drooping leads could be telling you/warning you of something.. Maybe over or under watering, maybe the light is too far away, maybe the lights just came on.. Keep an eye on when they droop, and how long it lasts for.
 

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Congrats on starting your first grow! It's always exciting, whether it's plant #1 or 1000. The plants look fine for their age. The drooping leads could be telling you/warning you of something.. Maybe over or under watering, maybe the light is too far away, maybe the lights just came on.. Keep an eye on when they droop, and how long it lasts for.
Thanks for the advice. At first when I was watering these two I would water the entire pot, 3gal smart pots. From what I've read, I guess that's not the way to do it, until they get bigger and can actually start drinking more. I should only water around the plants in a circle about 3-4" in diameter, about the diameter of a solo cup. I backed off watering them for a couple days and the sativa still seems be drooping. The coco was starting to feel pretty dry on the surface so I thought maybe I could water them just a little, I planned to wait one more day to water them again. I added a little bit of water to both of them and the sativa is still droopy. I have a humidifier inside the tent, should I turn that off when I feel they might be over watered? My lights are QB96 elites, are right around 24" away, and are turned all the way up (at least I think they are). The other night my grow tent got down to the low 50s for maybe an hour or so. I can't really think of much else. With that bit of information do you or anyone else have a suggestion as to why the sativa has been droopy for the past couple days and will she be ok?
 

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Thanks for the advice. At first when I was watering these two I would water the entire pot, 3gal smart pots. From what I've read, I guess that's not the way to do it, until they get bigger and can actually start drinking more. I should only water around the plants in a circle about 3-4" in diameter, about the diameter of a solo cup. I backed off watering them for a couple days and the sativa still seems be drooping. The coco was starting to feel pretty dry on the surface so I thought maybe I could water them just a little, I planned to wait one more day to water them again. I added a little bit of water to both of them and the sativa is still droopy. I have a humidifier inside the tent, should I turn that off when I feel they might be over watered? My lights are QB96 elites, are right around 24" away, and are turned all the way up (at least I think they are). The other night my grow tent got down to the low 50s for maybe an hour or so. I can't really think of much else. With that bit of information do you or anyone else have a suggestion as to why the sativa has been droopy for the past couple days and will she be ok?
Sounds like over watering.. The only way to really fix that is to wait for the pot to dry out before you water again. The best way to check is by lifting up the pot and making a mental note of how heavy it feels. Pots that are light, need water. Heavy pots don't need watering. The surface is the first thing to go dry.. But the roots arent on the surface. You want to stick a finger in the soil about knuckle deep. If it's still dry, then you may need to water the plant. But chances are, you will feel moisture.

You were told correct info on how to water seedlings. Just under and around the leaves is fine for now. Once the leaves reach the edges of the pot, you can start watering the whole pot.
 

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Sounds like over watering.. The only way to really fix that is to wait for the pot to dry out before you water again. The best way to check is by lifting up the pot and making a mental note of how heavy it feels. Pots that are light, need water. Heavy pots don't need watering. The surface is the first thing to go dry.. But the roots arent on the surface. You want to stick a finger in the soil about knuckle deep. If it's still dry, then you may need to water the plant. But chances are, you will feel moisture.

You were told correct info on how to water seedlings. Just under and around the leaves is fine for now. Once the leaves reach the edges of the pot, you can start watering the whole pot.
At first should I not worry about run off? When they are seedlings placed directly in a 3gal pot, is this too much water? Also, when poking the coco to test how wet it was I hit a root and it broke off. Will that plant be ok?
 

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At first should I not worry about run off? When they are seedlings placed directly in a 3gal pot, is this too much water? Also, when poking the coco to test how wet it was I hit a root and it broke off. Will that plant be ok?
At first, you want to as little as possible. It doesn't need to much of anything as a seedling. Run off is pointless unless you are using synthetic nutrients or flushing. It's a waste of nutes, which in turn is a waste of money. Roots grow while they are searching for water.. I water every other day (depending on pot size) using the 10% rule which is 1 gallon of water for every 10 gallons of soil. So a 3 gallon pot will get about 1.5 liters every other day. And if it wants more I can always use more..

Where did you stick your finger? Like right underneath the plant leaves or something, lol? It should be fine.. Roots break all the time. It should encourage new root growth. Next time just poke a spot closer to the edge of the pot.
 

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At first, you want to as little as possible. It doesn't need to much of anything as a seedling. Run off is pointless unless you are using synthetic nutrients or flushing. It's a waste of nutes, which in turn is a waste of money. Roots grow while they are searching for water.. I water every other day (depending on pot size) using the 10% rule which is 1 gallon of water for every 10 gallons of soil. So a 3 gallon pot will get about 1.5 liters every other day. And if it wants more I can always use more..

Where did you stick your finger? Like right underneath the plant leaves or something, lol? It should be fine.. Roots break all the time. It should encourage new root growth. Next time just poke a spot closer to the edge of the pot.
Ok, I watered them this morning and even more drooping. So, should I just not water them again until the leaves stop drooping? Also, should I turn off my humidifier so there's no extra moisture at all? And as far as my nutes, I'm using General Hyrdo's trio and calmag. With that said, I should be watering until runoff right? Do I need air flow on the smart pots? Right now my two clip on fans are posistioned to cool my light's heat sinks because they get quite hot if I don't give them active cooling. I apologize for all of the questions but by nature I'm a but of a perfectionist.

BTW when I checked the coco I was acutally several inches to the right of the plant and the root was really close to the top lmao =)
 

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Ok, I watered them this morning and even more drooping. So, should I just not water them again until the leaves stop drooping? Also, should I turn off my humidifier so there's no extra moisture at all? And as far as my nutes, I'm using General Hyrdo's trio and calmag. With that said, I should be watering until runoff right? Do I need air flow on the smart pots? Right now my two clip on fans are posistioned to cool my light's heat sinks because they get quite hot if I don't give them active cooling. I apologize for all of the questions but by nature I'm a but of a perfectionist.

BTW when I checked the coco I was acutally several inches to the right of the plant and the root was really close to the top lmao =)
Again.. Do as LITTLE as possible, lol. Feels like you're trying to do the MOST possible. Slow down, breathe, and do less, lol. Why did you water the plant again when the issue is most likely over watering? Let it dry out. When you over water the roots are just sitting a wet soil. They aren't growing or moving because they are in water. Thus the drooping leaves.. Let the pot dry out. As the soil dries, the roots will start growing and searching for more water. That should stop the drooping. The humidifier has nothing to do with over watering. Seedling and plants in veg love high humidity. Since you are using synthetic nutrients, you don't need to water to "run off" every feeding. Not at all while it's a seedling. The purpose of "run off" is to flush out the salt build up that happens when using synthetic nutrients. Getting run off once a week should be more than enough. If you prefer to water until you get rum off, wait until the plant looks like a full grown plant and not a baby plant. Hope that helps a bit! And feel free to ask as many questions as you need! That's what this forum is for!! I remember being where you are, and all the help I got from AFN.
A couple of important thing you will want to do is, find your grow style, the style that works best for you.. And research all of the advice you get, lol. That's where the real learning happens.
 
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16 days old now and still drooping pretty bad, they also seem pretty small for their age. I haven't watered them at all going on 3 days. Are they too dry now? Could it be something else? IMG_0267[1].JPGIMG_0268[1].JPGIMG_0269[1].JPGIMG_0270[1].JPGIMG_0271[1].JPGIMG_0272[1].JPG
 

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I'm starting a new thread this one can be closed. I'd do it myself but I don't see the option.