Bubbled(aerated) water helps soil plants

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I'm running TLO(true living organic) type plants where I largely rely on amended and cooked super soil and the occasional top dressing of powdered organic nutrients and a compost tea here and there.

So, most of the time I am just watering with tap water that I've filtered through a heavy duty carbon filter and let sit in a 5-gallon bucket with an aquarium stone bubbling away. Originally I did this to air off any residual chlorine(luckily my municipal water doesn't have chloramine) and let it bubble away for at least a couple days before using it.

Now I wonder, does the dissolved oxygen in the water lend any lasting and/or significant benefits? I know this is a founding principle of DWC hydro style growing, where the water is constantly being bubbled, but I wonder what benefits this lends to soil and particularly organic soil grows.

Does the water take on a significant amount of oxygen and does it hold it for long enough to benefit the roots and microbes in the soil when you water it? Is it worse than just using plain water?

I'm curious to hear other folks thoughts on this.
 
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I'm running TLO(true living organic) type plants where I largely rely on amended and cooked super soil and the occasional top dressing of powdered organic nutrients and a compost tea here and there.

So, most of the time I am just watering with tap water that I've filtered through a heavy duty carbon filter and let sit in a 5-gallon bucket with an aquarium stone bubbling away. Originally I did this to air off any residual chlorine(luckily my municipal water doesn't have chloramine) and let it bubble away for at least a couple days before using it.

Now I wonder, does the dissolved oxygen in the water lend any lasting and/or significant benefits? I know this is a founding principle of DWC hydro style growing, where the water is constantly being bubbled, but I wonder what benefits this lends to soil and particularly organic soil grows.

Does the water take on a significant amount of oxygen and does it hold it for long enough to benefit the roots and microbes in the soil when you water it? Is it worse than just using plain water?

I'm curious to hear other folks thoughts on this.
More oxygen in the water lets the roots take up more nutrients at a faster pace, I use peat moss and cow shit and perlite mixed. I have airstones in the bottoms of my 5 gallon buckets and in the 5 gallon buckets an hour before watering . i don't get rootballs in my buckets its like the whole 5 gallon bucket turns to roots but smaller spider web rooting . the whole medium stays together when taken out the buckets, has to be ripped apart and cleaned. before used again . I used 18 buckets 4 times without changing it then its outside in holes now. Here's a couple with the 5 th use


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I definitely notice a difference using aerated vs non aerated. Just remember that the temperature of the water determines the amount of oxygen it can and will hold. I think it’s something like 5-10 x’s more O2 in 65 degree water than in 75 degree water. I usually use frozen water bottles floating in my bucket of aerated super water. Idk why but adding a few drops of isopropyl alcohol to the water before adding anything else helps the water hold a TON more o2 and gets rid of the chlorine quicker. Lemon juice or humic acid also helps remove and precipitate out the bad stuff as well. If you add alcohol to the water be sure to allow time for it to evaporate. Which is not long 1-2 hours. Also for a quick boost of o2 you could always add hydrogen peroxide like 1 tspn per gallon and use within a few minutes.
 

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I'm running TLO(true living organic) type plants where I largely rely on amended and cooked super soil and the occasional top dressing of powdered organic nutrients and a compost tea here and there.

So, most of the time I am just watering with tap water that I've filtered through a heavy duty carbon filter and let sit in a 5-gallon bucket with an aquarium stone bubbling away. Originally I did this to air off any residual chlorine(luckily my municipal water doesn't have chloramine) and let it bubble away for at least a couple days before using it.

Now I wonder, does the dissolved oxygen in the water lend any lasting and/or significant benefits? I know this is a founding principle of DWC hydro style growing, where the water is constantly being bubbled, but I wonder what benefits this lends to soil and particularly organic soil grows.

Does the water take on a significant amount of oxygen and does it hold it for long enough to benefit the roots and microbes in the soil when you water it? Is it worse than just using plain water?

I'm curious to hear other folks thoughts on this.
Stones don't really add any oxygen to water if that is your goal... adding water to oxygen the surface needs to be penetrated like a drip penetrating the surface of the water. Aka rain or water fall effect.
 

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Stones don't really add any oxygen to water if that is your goal... adding water to oxygen the surface needs to be penetrated like a drip penetrating the surface of the water. Aka rain or water fall effect.
Wait, what? Not sure that's accurate. They are penetrating the surface, but from the bottom with air bubbles. And they definitely provide oxygen to plants in DWC buckets.
 

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Wait, what? Not sure that's accurate. They are penetrating the surface, but from the bottom with air bubbles. And they definitely provide oxygen to plants in DWC buckets.
Where is the oxygen produced? Under water? A bubble that travels from the bottom of the water to the surface means the oxygen is just releasing into the air as it breaches the surface...not enough oxygen (of any ) is transferred to the water... why do you think a fish tank has a spill of water to agitate the surface of the water.
 

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I saw this not fully seeing your setup but I have researched air stones and they aren't worth the electricity imo.... (yes I know it's like 3 cents to run.)
 

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Where is the oxygen produced? Under water? A bubble that travels from the bottom of the water to the surface means the oxygen is just releasing into the air as it breaches the surface...not enough oxygen (of any ) is transferred to the water... why do you think a fish tank has a spill of water to agitate the surface of the water.
I think the air that blows through the water imparts some oxygen to the water as it passes through. I know that my fish tanks in the past didn't have a filter that cascaded water down and the fish seemed to do fine. If they don't add oxygen to the water, what is their purpose for any application? Frankly, I've never heard this theory that air stones don't add oxygen to water. Do you have any sources that back this up. Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude or shut you down, it's just such a different theory that I'm genuinely curious to hear more about it.
 

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ok, jus chimin in here for no particular reazon :biggrin: but it seemz to me that if an air bubble is travelin from the bottom to the top, but something impedez itz travel along the way, eg a root, and said bubble burstz upon said root, then ya, said root would absorb the oxygen, or at least part of it :confused1: but mebbe that'z jus me own stoned logic at work...:rolleyes2: so ok, me gettin me coat & plz carry on.... :smoking: ppp
 
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Where is the oxygen produced? Under water? A bubble that travels from the bottom of the water to the surface means the oxygen is just releasing into the air as it breaches the surface...not enough oxygen (of any ) is transferred to the water... why do you think a fish tank has a spill of water to agitate the surface of the water.
I saw this not fully seeing your setup but I have researched air stones and they aren't worth the electricity imo.... (yes I know it's like 3 cents to run.)
Really, what research was that lol?

And no oxygen is produced, some is transferred, in case you're interested in actual exact science.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807525/

Maybe blow your horns in private before striking false tones in public haha, all it takes is a calculator, abacus or slide ruler and basic knowledge of how to operate such a device to get those pesky airstones to work haha

You could also try researching oxygen transfer to water which is the subject at hand rather than the quality and worth of airstones!