Not sure if there will be much need for the thread but I'd like others to have an easier way to access common questions you all may have. The autocob is available at a new lower price. 134.99 The 4 pack is a great option as the price is again a little less along as a good shipping discount. The "almost complete" is perfect for those not ready for an all out DIY build. I would just need to know the desired space you want to grow in and I can offer suggestions on the amount of cobs needed and the driver you will need to power it all. This option is basically the same as the autocob without the driver and power cord. You will need to build a frame and buy some basic parts to complete it.