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This is from my second grow. My first was done in miracle grow and had to be harvested early due to spider mites. Spider mites gone (thank you diatomaceous earth)

I decided to do this grow with yard dirt. I picked a spot and filled a 5 gallon bucket with dirt from this area, coco, and perlite. I did the same thing for my third grow in a large container minus the coco. Looks like this dirt has much organic matter in it or that and a combo of too much megacrop and too much organic matter already present in the dirt.

The second grow has been mostly fine, with the only problems visible being the dark green leaves really. The plant has produced small compact buds but not much in the way of green growth. Now on day 78 the leaves look like this.5.22.1.jpg5.22.3.jpg

Not really worried about it, just waiting for more amber to harvest, but i would like to know what caused this so I can have an idea of what my soil is like.
I know that nitrogen is over abundant, and i guess maybe phosphorus is to blame for the weird leaves. I think that due to the red stems on all the large leaves that have a stem all to themselves.5.22.2.jpg

The bucket held water like crazy at first. It might not need water for like a week at the beginning of its life. I fed it in-between watering at something like 2 tsp per half-gallon of water. I eventually got a ppm pen and found my feed was around 3100ppm, but i only fed the plant maybe 6-7 times during its life. I don't know what the runoff is cause i've never checked. The other half of the time was ~7pH tap water ~150ppm.

The new plant has only had megacrop once @ 2 tsp per gallon and tap water and one feeding of pond water. Pond water pH is good. Stays neutral, my other half checks and cleans it of debris often. This one is 49 days old and exhibits symptoms of nitrogen toxicity also. I most recently gave this one a bit of a flush with the bathtub wand, to try and clear away some nitrogen (if such a thing can be done) and to get the soil consistently wet, as i found some dry spots with my pH probe.
I guess i ought to mention that this one is being done in a 25gallon fabric pot. I really regret it i think, hard to manage the watering and you don't feed very often cause the soil stays wet a long time. I think the five gallon buckets are about right for me.

I've started some projects to get my soil in better order, and until then i will continue my attempts to try and grow in it. If anyone has any ideas about what they think happened with the weird leaves please let me know.
 

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This is from my second grow. My first was done in miracle grow and had to be harvested early due to spider mites. Spider mites gone (thank you diatomaceous earth)

I decided to do this grow with yard dirt. I picked a spot and filled a 5 gallon bucket with dirt from this area, coco, and perlite. I did the same thing for my third grow in a large container minus the coco. Looks like this dirt has much organic matter in it or that and a combo of too much megacrop and too much organic matter already present in the dirt.

The second grow has been mostly fine, with the only problems visible being the dark green leaves really. The plant has produced small compact buds but not much in the way of green growth. Now on day 78 the leaves look like this.View attachment 1193716View attachment 1193718

Not really worried about it, just waiting for more amber to harvest, but i would like to know what caused this so I can have an idea of what my soil is like.
I know that nitrogen is over abundant, and i guess maybe phosphorus is to blame for the weird leaves. I think that due to the red stems on all the large leaves that have a stem all to themselves.View attachment 1193720

The bucket held water like crazy at first. It might not need water for like a week at the beginning of its life. I fed it in-between watering at something like 2 tsp per half-gallon of water. I eventually got a ppm pen and found my feed was around 3100ppm, but i only fed the plant maybe 6-7 times during its life. I don't know what the runoff is cause i've never checked. The other half of the time was ~7pH tap water ~150ppm.

The new plant has only had megacrop once @ 2 tsp per gallon and tap water and one feeding of pond water. Pond water pH is good. Stays neutral, my other half checks and cleans it of debris often. This one is 49 days old and exhibits symptoms of nitrogen toxicity also. I most recently gave this one a bit of a flush with the bathtub wand, to try and clear away some nitrogen (if such a thing can be done) and to get the soil consistently wet, as i found some dry spots with my pH probe.
I guess i ought to mention that this one is being done in a 25gallon fabric pot. I really regret it i think, hard to manage the watering and you don't feed very often cause the soil stays wet a long time. I think the five gallon buckets are about right for me.

I've started some projects to get my soil in better order, and until then i will continue my attempts to try and grow in it. If anyone has any ideas about what they think happened with the weird leaves please let me know.
You already know you have nutrient issues. Starting with soil of unknown nutrient content will almost always end poorly for even experienced growers. Not that it cannot be done - it can. It just requires a lot of experience reading your plants. The thing is a bag of coco or coco/peat is cheap. Then you start with a clean slate and know the inputs. It is much easier.

As to your plants, part of the coloring may be genetic. What strain are you running?
 

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You already know you have nutrient issues. Starting with soil of unknown nutrient content will almost always end poorly for even experienced growers. Not that it cannot be done - it can. It just requires a lot of experience reading your plants. The thing is a bag of coco or coco/peat is cheap. Then you start with a clean slate and know the inputs. It is much easier.

As to your plants, part of the coloring may be genetic. What strain are you running?
Mixed bag of autos from cropkingseeds. I sent them some photos of the buds and asked them which strain they thought it was and they told me they have 500 plus strains so they didn't know. Kinda lame.

I didn't think about the color being genetic. Do you mean the stems or the leaves or both? Aside from the dark green though, what about the weird discoloration on the leaves? Looks almost like stripes but i guess i didn't notice it til recently. Couldn't find anything in the quick and dirty guide that looks like that.
 

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Mixed bag of autos from cropkingseeds. I sent them some photos of the buds and asked them which strain they thought it was and they told me they have 500 plus strains so they didn't know. Kinda lame.

I didn't think about the color being genetic. Do you mean the stems or the leaves or both? Aside from the dark green though, what about the weird discoloration on the leaves? Looks almost like stripes but i guess i didn't notice it til recently. Couldn't find anything in the quick and dirty guide that looks like that.
Like I said you have nutrient problems and based on the flower it does not look like there is any time to work with to make changes. Just think about how you might do the next grow.
 

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I am not trying to save it or anything. I just wanted an idea of what it might be.
 

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If I was going to take a guess "I decided to do this grow with yard dirt. " I would say this is the beginning of your troubles. Soil that has not been "sanitized" can be full of pathogens, bad organisms and an unknown nutrient profile. When I was using soil from outdoors it was from my organic garden with many years of careful organic amendments, cover crops and careful plant rotation. It had 25 worms per shovel. Which is an indicator for good live soil. I could only grow one plant in it "water only" and then it had to go back out to the garden for at least a year to get back in shape.

I also noticed you are using way too much Mega Crop
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You used 12 grams per gallon when 4 is plenty.
 
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Yeah I'll definitely cut back on the megacrop. Thanks for the advice on all the rest. I'm still pretty new to all this.

If i continue to use yard dirt you think it would be a step in the right direction to sterilize said soil? (several months in a plastic bin left in the sun?)
I guess it wouldn't be bad to do that to bagged soil as well. I got mondo fungus gnats from a bag of miracle grow potting soil...
 
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