The title was to lure in as many as possible. The length of this is inevitable but I'll do my best. Not hating or slandering. This is just my story over the past couple months. Few months ago I picked up 2 kind k5 LEDs. Growers house for 2880 shipped. Shortly after getting them 21 LEDs burned out. So I went off the 90 day return and wanted a refund. I paid 200 in return shipping and double boxed then with over 75$ in material. Kind emailed me saying the lights arrived damaged. I was ruined. They offered to send them back free of charge" how nice" now damaged and not working. I contacted growers house who I purchased them thought and after some time they offered me a refund -25% restocking. A few things that got me thinking. Now kind accepted these lights in this condition from the shipper and didn't raise a question? How come the photos they sent me had a perfect kind k5 box directly behind the light? Why would t they send me proof that both lights were damaged? This I asked for many many times. Why did kind throw away all packaging when the shipping company went to inspect the lights? How was the damage on the light so bad where the only way to cause it would be both lights would have to came out of each box and be struck. It wasent impact damage like being banged around it seemed like it was dropped on a curb with no box. Again on both of them but no proof? Kind was the worst company to deal with up until i told them I was going to alert everyone I knew about these crazy questions I had above. They played hardball up until they caught wind of it. They offered me a 650 dollar check or a free light.